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The next door neighbors, who already have five kids, three of which are completely out of control, today, while we were just talking to him about miscellaneous shit, said, "Yeah... well, I'm in trouble, now. We've had an accident, and my wife's expecting another baby."

ANOTHER BABY! An ACCIDENT!

I wanted to ask him how the fuck does that happen to a grown man, with clear evidence of what happens when... ARGH.

He's contracting, too, as his last company fell over and died with the bubble, and he has no assurance of making any money three months from now, and I'm just incredulous.

I guess some of it is all the agony we went through before we even thought of having Jet. And they already have five and what more is a sixth to them? I dunno.

It's daunting, I tell you. After all the debate and thought we put into creating a life, a whole new future, to have someone do it by accident just makes me want to hit something.

Date: 2003-01-10 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marith.livejournal.com
Ouch :/ That's a bad situation for them to be in. Most of all for the kids.

But it is possible for "accidents" to occur with responsible use of any birth control method, unfortunately; condoms, the pill, implants, all have a small failure rate. Probably he should have had a vasectomy, but it's not the sort of thing everyone automatically thinks of. (They really ought to consider one _now_, though. Six? Aie.)

Doesn't seem fair, does it?

Date: 2003-01-13 10:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liralen.livejournal.com
No, not fair at all.

*hugs* and bah.

Date: 2003-01-10 06:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aynjel.livejournal.com
I'm reminded of a friend's comment (a friend who is horribly child-phobic) when waiting to be seated at a restaurant when a couple with six small children walked by. She leaned over and said, "Someone should tell them what they're doing to make that happen so they can stop it."

Date: 2003-01-13 10:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liralen.livejournal.com
*grin*. While I'm not child-phobic, that certainly rings a chord in me...

Date: 2003-01-10 06:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tsjafo.livejournal.com
Reminds me of an old "St. Elsewhere" episode where a woman pregnant with her 13th walked into the operating room where her husband was having something minor done and threatened the doctor with a gun because hubby was supposed to be fixed (he faked it). Once the doctor found out what the story was, he fixed hubby on the spot, for free. Accident my ass, that's just bone lazy.

Date: 2003-01-13 10:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liralen.livejournal.com
Exactly.

Well, it helps that the wife's now said, quite publically to the husband, "If you don't go and get it fixed, professionally, I'll do it myself with a boning knife."

Re:

Date: 2003-01-13 10:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tsjafo.livejournal.com
*snerk* *grin*

Date: 2003-01-10 08:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] niherlas.livejournal.com
Nathan, our coming boy, was not intended - and yes, we were using birth control measures (barrier methods, rather than drugs). No prevention method, not even surgery, is 100%. Still, I'd never refer to him as an accident. He was not planned, and the best things in my life have mostly happened when I wasn't planning on them.

Interestingly enough, while we weren't planning on having a child, Nathan couldn't have come along at a better time in our lives. Like I said, best things have been unplanned. (Thenomain always did say I was part eshu)

Still, to have five children, and still be having unplanned children... that's another matter entirely. That's almost as bad as the cousin (by marriage) of mine who, after she and her husband finished declaring bankruptcy, decided it was a great time to have another child because, hey, they didn't have any debt!

Date: 2003-01-11 12:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tavella.livejournal.com
Thenomain? That wouldn't be the Thenomain who used to hang out on Pernmush?

Thenomain

Date: 2003-01-11 10:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] niherlas.livejournal.com
Like there's room in this goofy world for another? He's actually right here (in Seattle), visiting for a job interview at UW. On the other side of the kitchen, babbling toabout feta and ricotta cheese.

"Hey, wow, cool person... long time... yaddayadda. (don't put in that I said yadda yadda)."

Whatever. Heh. Theno's at zalen.orgzalen.org, although I'm going to set him up with an invite code so that he can monitor a friends list.

Re: Thenomain

Date: 2003-01-13 10:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liralen.livejournal.com
*laughter* Cool!

Wouldn't THAT serve me right if Thenomain moves to Seattle, TOO, after I move out.

Bah!!

Date: 2003-01-13 10:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liralen.livejournal.com
Yeah. For some reason, I don't have nearly as much trouble with an unplanned pregnancy for the first one as I do for a sixth. Especially when you have the financial support to support the kid and you're going to love him as much as you already seem to. I have absolutely no anger or rage about that.

And, yeah, there's the logical reality that nothing is 100% with normal, healthy adults. So I have no problems with that.

It really is the SIX with NO MONEY bit that bothered me a lot... just like your cousin's situation. I mean... where's the sense in that??

I mean, after Jet, we've decided to just not have any more, and John's probably going to get things cut and tied in a short while, to be as sure as we can be. It seems so straightforward...

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