Fandom Friends
Jun. 19th, 2008 01:10 pm*laughter* As
2metaldog and
r0ck3tsci3ntist have gently reminded me without... well... reminding me in particular, my recent wave of fandom friends have been really, really interesting, varied, and fun to get to know. I appreciate them all quite a lot, and they've been the most active in supporting me in this new obsession I have with writing fan fiction.
Writing is so much harder than the decades of technical stuff I've done. With technical stuff, usually I know when something is going to work or not work according to some criterion. Even when the criterion, itself, is really hard to get and can, pretty much, never be gotten completely right as someone always comes up with some new, crazy idea on how they want to use it; it's at least a good measurement before I actually make the thing and give it to someone.
With writing, I can never be sure if it's going to work until someone says, "Wow... I got that."
I love my Twin Souls beta
incandescens and my other betas
mysocalledhell,
stark_black, and
calmingeffects for giving me that initial push of, yeah, that'll work... thank you, so much.
I know I'm going to miss someone, and I'll be sad about that. But it seems good to at least try, given that I went ahead and did that other list of close friends and probably missed someone with that, too. I'll try it chronologically, too to give it a little structure.
It started with
incandescens and
amberley and
shaterri all sending me tons of anime. Mostly, ironically enough, with
amberley, even though he never actually reads any fanfiction at all.
incandescens introduced me to Bleach years and years ago by sending me the first book of the manga.
amberley, on the other hand, started shipping me boxes and boxes and boxes of manga and anime and when he went to Japan, brought me back stuff as well. He got me into Right Stuf soon after I retired, and I also bought boxes and boxes of stuff.
Hm. Maybe I should say it really started back in the Chatsubo, but that might be going too far.
Anyway... I still remember a conversation with
amberley and
flit about this "slash" stuff and we were giggling a lot over some pairing in an ice fishing shack; and it amuses me, far too much, that nearly seven years later I'm now one of those...
From the boxes and boxes of stuff, along with playing video games with Jet (specifically Kingdom Hearts II) and looking stuff up for the game, I ran across more of this fan fiction stuff and started getting intrigued. Plus, watching four or five episodes of Bleach every single day finally started bleeding into my dreams. Dreams were the start of all my fiction in November of 2007, so it seemed natural to want to write from them.
After a long conversation with
incandescens and two or three small things that she encouraged and probably asked other people to read, I started Twin Souls. I'd done a lot of "starts" last November with my own novel ideas, and I couldn't quite bring myself to actually write them out. I wanted something... easier to start. Something where I could exercise all the things I knew I'd have to be able to exercise in plot, character, research, and depth of world building and description that I really wanted to pursue for the long term. I trust
incandescens's knowledge of Bleach and her practiced skill with using English really effectively, and she's been wonderful through the writing of what's turning into an epic. I thought it was only going to be eight chapters, at most, when I started. It's now at 20 and still rolling.
rasetsunyo I found through
incandescens, and it's fun to admire her art while she admires my writing and we both have our own strengths. She's taught me more about how to just have fun with this stuff.
Twin Souls brought me
calmingeffects and
shadowgirl1605.
bellumina and
mysocalledhell got dragged in through
shadowgirl1605's speed-ficcing. That was insane to me, to try and write that quickly. April's disappeared for the summer, but all the others are now good, solid companions on IM whom I depend on in different ways. I've learned a lot from them and learned a lot about them, and, I hope I've returned some of that value. They, along with
incandescens, really initiated me into the methods, nomenclature, and how fan fiction works and spreads on livejournal.
By actually reading
kurosaki_clinic on a regular basis, I found
letmyself_go and had fun commissioning both the Jyuushiro that is now this entry's icon and a Zoot suit version of the two Captains. I still drool at nearly everything she does.
Twin Souls also attracted
zangetsugirl, whom was very patient with me when I started asking detailed questions about what shikai really meant. Her comments on my fiction always make it obvious she *gets* so much of what I put in it that it amazes me. That always gives me the incentive to keep putting everything I can into each chapter. It's been fun talking with her about other things, and reading the other fandoms she writes for, especially her very character and plot driven fics for Teenaged Mutant Ninja Turtles and Transformers.
calmingeffects then introduced me to the works of
stark_black. And I read all of her stuff nearly obsessively, commenting on every chapter of "I Come to You in Pieces" in one night.; and then diving into her fic that wasn't even related to fandoms I knew nothing about. I think it was the combination of being able to do really complex, powerful emotional work along with clean, clear action and a solid plot that carried readers along that really attracted me. Admittedly, the fact that she was so successful in pulling readers in really made me want to understand how that works, too. I pretty much stalked her, her email box, commented on every entry, and then nearly died she asked me to beta "Memories" even though I knew next to nothing about One Piece.
calmingeffects also introduced me to the works of
2metaldog, I'll admit I started just with the Ukitake/Byakuya heavy bdsm fics because I'd been thinking of something along the same lines for... well... forever, but hadn't had the courage to write them down. Hers were there and perfect. And she shared a lot of other interests that I have, and that was really cool. She's a really interesting person and it's fun to share perspectives on things that we both have done. I read through all her Saiyuki fics in a week as technically they were excellent. They were also really hot and I loved her characterizations of those beautiful boys. I commented as I went and I think the comments have started a really cool friendship. But her work, along with
calmingeffects's constant encouragement and support, gave me enough courage for me to start writing my Ukitake-bdsm fics.
On seeing those
stark_black stunned me by asking me to write with her. Giving Grace was the breathless result of that. I'm still... bemused to find that I now have such a creative, intense, and supportive relationship with her, now that I... it still leaves me speechless sometimes. Thank you for sharing.
stark_black was the one that introduced me to Y!Gallery, and that's where
r0ck3tsci3ntist found Twin Souls. And that friendship, though relatively new, has come up with hundreds of fun parallels, shared attitudes and interests, and it's going to be a lot of fun to explore that. That she loves my writing always amazes me when I love her art so very much.
There are also dozens of people here, fanfiction.net, and from Y!Gallery that I'm starting to get to know a bit better, like
ginnyvos,
ai_ici_lover, and
nikita_cheri111. And there are probably still more threads and tendrils going out from all that that will bring me more friendships in the future. That amazes me.
Especially since I've so rarely had solid relationships with women other than the technical ones I've always known, this is all entirely new territory for me. Thank you all for making it so much fun. :-)
Writing is so much harder than the decades of technical stuff I've done. With technical stuff, usually I know when something is going to work or not work according to some criterion. Even when the criterion, itself, is really hard to get and can, pretty much, never be gotten completely right as someone always comes up with some new, crazy idea on how they want to use it; it's at least a good measurement before I actually make the thing and give it to someone.
With writing, I can never be sure if it's going to work until someone says, "Wow... I got that."
I love my Twin Souls beta
I know I'm going to miss someone, and I'll be sad about that. But it seems good to at least try, given that I went ahead and did that other list of close friends and probably missed someone with that, too. I'll try it chronologically, too to give it a little structure.
It started with
Hm. Maybe I should say it really started back in the Chatsubo, but that might be going too far.
Anyway... I still remember a conversation with
From the boxes and boxes of stuff, along with playing video games with Jet (specifically Kingdom Hearts II) and looking stuff up for the game, I ran across more of this fan fiction stuff and started getting intrigued. Plus, watching four or five episodes of Bleach every single day finally started bleeding into my dreams. Dreams were the start of all my fiction in November of 2007, so it seemed natural to want to write from them.
After a long conversation with
Twin Souls brought me
By actually reading
Twin Souls also attracted
On seeing those
There are also dozens of people here, fanfiction.net, and from Y!Gallery that I'm starting to get to know a bit better, like
Especially since I've so rarely had solid relationships with women other than the technical ones I've always known, this is all entirely new territory for me. Thank you all for making it so much fun. :-)
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Date: 2008-06-19 07:28 pm (UTC)Fandom has brought me some of the best friends I have, and I'm eternally glad for that.
I didn't know you read Saiyuki stuff as well? ^^ *is a total Saiyuki addict*
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Date: 2008-06-19 08:10 pm (UTC)I only read a little Saiyuki stuff... haven't actually delved into the comms, yet. I went through all of incandescens' and 2metaldog's, but I'm kind of oddly picky about them.
Terrifyingly enough, though I have a Saiyuki FIC due TOMORROW that I haven't finished yet, for
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Date: 2008-06-19 08:17 pm (UTC)Did you read the manga? Or watch the anime? I love Saiyuki, but sadly as a writer, I'm not all that good so I only seem to produce drabbles.
Auch... Good luck on getting that written!
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Date: 2008-06-19 08:24 pm (UTC)It was lust at first sight. And the first chunk of episodes were really fun.
I actually haven't even gotten through all of the first series, yet. The translation on that particular boxed set went out of synch for most of the second half of the series. I should get something better, but I just watched even without understanding, for quite some time after that.
Thanks for the luck! Hee.
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Date: 2008-06-19 08:33 pm (UTC)(But than I love books better than movies and tv too, so it might actually have to do with the form :P)
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Date: 2008-06-20 03:38 am (UTC)Yay! I'll have to try that out! But then I might start having to draw out of the books or something. Oops...
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Date: 2008-06-19 08:12 pm (UTC)*hugs and kisses* Thank you, so much, for all your support and friendship and love and being around for me. It helps, immensely.
Yeah... it amazes me how the community works. And I hadn't expected any of it, really.
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Date: 2008-06-19 07:53 pm (UTC)I'm really pleased that you've enjoyed my work. I'm also really pleased that we've managed to strike up a friendship and discovered many common interests. It's really cool how one interesting thing can lead to so many others.
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Date: 2008-06-19 08:21 pm (UTC)Yay! You definitely gave me a lot with your writing. Not just the pleasure of reading it, but I have learned and am still learning a lot from how you structure, write, and choose to depict the characters. I get inspired by a lot of your stuff. Thank you.
And, yeah, it is *really* cool how one interesting thing can lead to so many others.
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Date: 2008-06-19 08:39 pm (UTC)The urge to screw with something endlessly is very hard to resist when you don't post it by chapter. A case of... "I'll just tweak this" which leads to... "I have to change that" *snicker*.
I'm always surprised when people say they get a lot out of what I write in a technical sense. Surprised and very flattered. I'm really happy that I can inspire you in some small way.
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Date: 2008-06-19 10:02 pm (UTC)(hugs) En avant!
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Date: 2008-06-19 11:09 pm (UTC)*blush* Thank you for saying so. And thank you for getting me started.
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Date: 2008-06-19 10:15 pm (UTC)But yeah, it's been great meeting you and -- well, everyone, honestly -- writing with you and everything. ♥ Fandom's a really good place, if only because you finally get to meet people who have a LOT of the same interests as you -- and you almost always get to learn a lot more, and find new interests that you like just as much or more than your old ones.
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Date: 2008-06-19 11:21 pm (UTC)Yeah, I guess I'm learning that fandom can be really nice. And there are enough of the same interests to start that it's a great place to start learning about someone.
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Date: 2008-06-20 12:15 am (UTC)Fandom can be awesome, but of course, there is the wank, the hate memes -- but in the end, the internet is the internet. X3
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Date: 2008-06-20 01:50 am (UTC)Thanks!!
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Date: 2008-06-19 10:35 pm (UTC)Gah, I didn't need a shout out. You tell me all the time in email and chat you like my stuffs. It's cool though to know I introduced you to y!gallery. So many pretty pictures to cycle through there. x)
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Date: 2008-06-19 11:08 pm (UTC)Well, I needed to do it. Yeah! You introduced me to lots of cool stuff. Naruto, One Piece, and got me to finally *read* all of the Bleach chapters. So thank you, so much.
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Date: 2008-06-19 11:27 pm (UTC)*hugs* thanx for the shout-out ... might just be enough motivation to go finish Chad & Nova.
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Date: 2008-06-20 03:25 am (UTC)I can't tell you how pleased I am to have discovered Twin Souls as well as yourself on Y! - frankly, the last place I expected to meet a kindred soul, which I've come think of you as, since it seems we've read all the same childhood stories (also, I'm fond of run-on sentences and employ poor comma usage, unlike you).
Your prose creates pictures in my mind and it makes me so happy that you're willing to indulge my impulsive desire to render them into reality.
Thank you.
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Date: 2008-06-20 03:48 am (UTC)You're usually first to comment on my fics, though! So not always the late comer. *grin*
You should ask
Yeah, I certainly wasn't expecting someone like you on Y! *grin* It's so cool, though, that we can share all that AND all the other stuff. It's so much fun.
I'm glad that my prose gives you that! And your renderings have started to trigger stuff in my dreams, which will probably flow right into my stories as well. It's really neat.
You're so very welcome!!
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Date: 2008-06-20 04:04 am (UTC)Thank you!! :-)
And I haven't forgotten about incorporating that fireworks fanart you did of the Academy boys. It's just taking me far longer than I thought to get there. Hee.
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